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Replying to @simonbrown
@ewolff it depends (as always). For 12 factor apps, you may be right. But not for clustered apps or non http protocols.
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I still think it's early days for PaaS...
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IMHO the momentum of Docker is larger than PaaS i.e. unlikely PaaS will win. Which I don't really understand BTW.
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that makes two of us
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Docker is supported by multiple platforms, weirdly making it the closest to a portable “standard” we have
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A case of “worse is better” if there ever was one, by the way
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early J2EE, for all its faults, encouraged a separation between apps and environment. Docker reverses this.
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No, it’s just a different kind of environment. 12factor app in a Docker container instead of Java EE .ear
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An EAR file is on a higher level of abstraction because you don't care about most 12 factor app points.
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like log aggregation … a PaaS will provide this, with Docker you’re probably on your own?
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Replying to @simonbrown @ewolff @n1ko_w1ll
We seem to be talking past each other. Docker containers typically run on a platform, too.

Dec 10, 2016 · 10:30 AM UTC

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Replying to @stilkov @simonbrown @ewolff
isn't logging different? Docker runtime itself vs containers running in docker. Especially in a "swarm"?!
Replying to @stilkov @simonbrown @ewolff
ah, you mean regarding the EAR? I agree