@stilkov @VaughnVernon Because Closure syntax is so much different than people are used to they never get to the understand semantics stage

@SzymonPobiega @stilkov Funny as it may seem, Groovy may be the best opportunity to mostly escape Java. But Grails easily leads to anemia.

@VaughnVernon @szymonpobiega We are very happy with JRuby (and use it for *a lot* of client work)

@stilkov @SzymonPobiega Great. With Rails, no Rails, or both?