i an confused about the agi safety vs longtermism debate. as far as i can tell, longtermism mostly is just about agi safety, with some "and also bio risk!"s thrown in?

Aug 14, 2022 · 8:34 PM UTC

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also somewhat confused by the branding of longtermism, since most longermists seem to think agi safety is an existential risk in the very short term :)
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Replying to @sama
From the inside of the field: IMHO longtermism came out of astronomical waste argument against xrisk in general, got refined by Bekstead, and has a positive side (a grand future is possible and desirable) and a negative side (hence, fix near and mid term xrisk).
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Replying to @sama
Do you place greater value on maximizing the spread consciousness or maximizing flourishing of human life? Before we can assess the validity of a belief we must understand someone’s standard of value. In either case, I would say that there is less overlap between both.
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Replying to @sama
Longtermism is sufficient to motivate worries about AGI, but not necessary if you think the probabilities are high enough to justify AGI worries regardless.
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If we take a long termist view (and tbh even if we dont; but long termisim makes the issue especially significant) - then unrecoverable Collapse is as a significant as outright X risk. The cosif endowment (etc) will not be fulfilled. 1/
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Replying to @sama
AGI will be the new nuclear weapons, nobody is allowed to have it, but the problem will be that a single person might be able to code it in their bedroom.
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