If you’re not using ARIA Landmarks and they’re not required, then how are you making the <div id="footer"> determinable to AT users? #a11y

@pauljadam with a heading.

.@sinabahram You put a heading in the Footer? What does it say "This is the Footer"? Serious question because I’ve never seen one before.

@pauljadam It also is a graceful fallback even with role=contentinfo, which is why I always have clients still do it.

@sinabahram if you can send me an example I’d like to see if not able to share I understand :)

@pauljadam mcachicago.org/Home

.@sinabahram footer region identification tells the screen reader user when they enter/focus the region, heading does not tell them that.

@pauljadam @SinaBahram why else create new semantics if they don't provide better reach into the features and languages we require?

@mholzschlag @pauljadam The problem is a classic one in computer science. Search VS Insertion.