Truly honest question as I'm ignorant here. Please help me understand how "dark patterns" is racist? And remember, I've been asked why my horns don't show for nearly 60 years, so I'm really wanting to understand, not cause upset or argument. At all. xo
Todd @toddlibby
1 Jan 2023
2023 is a great time to start using “anti-patterns” for IX that is used without intent and “deceptive patterns” for those patterns that are made with intent. Let’s throw out the monolithic term “dark patterns” and get in tune with inclusive terms that do not have racist (1/2)

Jan 1, 2023 · 6:24 PM UTC

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Anti-pattern is less offensive than anti-semitic then? (Semite refers to languages, not melanin conentrations in the skin).
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Replying to @mholzschlag
I always understood dark pattern to mean hidden, in shadow, not obvious. Should I stop saying its a dark night when there is no moon, in case someone applies those or other associated meanings to dark in that context? Hardly. Deceptive patterns is more descriptive mind.
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I think I am deciding I have to leave it to the other people to decide for themselves and if it's offensive to somebody and they tell me then I will do my best to acknowledge and honor their wishes otherwise it's hard to change after 60 and when you know your time is very limited
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Replying to @mholzschlag
This thread full of bad faith disingenuous comments from people going, "Oh, so I'm no longer allowed to call the night 'dark' then am I". Someone else nailed it already. Don't use dark as a metaphor for bad. It's that simple.
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I mean this completely respectfully research the origins of the word Aryan.
Replying to @mholzschlag
I've been trying to figure out how to explain this without using offensive language...and before anyone goes there, it's language that is offensive *to me*. I don't want those words in my mouth, even if my father used them. The concern is all based on darkness as negative.
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But I'm not dark, so I'm better? How is that not exclusionary of itself?
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Replying to @mholzschlag
This might help: amyhupe.co.uk/articles/chang…

Why it's time to update our language about bad design patterns by Amy Hupe, content designer.

Why we need to retire the racist term we use to describe bad design patterns, and what to use instead.

amyhupe.co.uk
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Changing languages in bad and I also suppose it depends on where you are in life you have to be priorities I talk about death and dying a lot now because that's my reality and is that dark people sure tell me it is
Replying to @mholzschlag
A non-trivial proportion of your readership perceives that usage in the context of a wide, broad, deep linguistic habit of associating [metaphorical] ‘darkness’ of evil with literal ‘darkness’ of skin tone.
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That's called human history. It's gone on in almost every instance of modern humans. Us v. Them.
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