Replying to @mholzschlag
What examples of the low code no code development are you thinking? For BPMN, I see it as a great idea. For web development, to date, it produces inaccessible 💩.
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Can you drag and drop and interact with a graphical user interface? Many people cannot. That right there is a red flag. Why do I have to use my hands to accomplish a task that should provide multiple input and output options both for preference and accessibility?
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Agreed, the drag & drop isn’t accessible. For complex business rules, though, the BPMN functionality is a huge help. Not all jobs will be accessible. YET, people creating tools have a responsibility (they’re not honoring) to create accessible tools. I hope @Appian will do better!
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I have a condition requiring accessible support does that mean I can only be a user that may have or may not have accessible features in an application or website and I can't ever hope or dream to be a developer. That is pure exclusion. Also not legal in many places
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There are some job roles that will not be possible for some folks. Even Section 508 doesn’t apply for some sectors. Given the complexity of some situations, BPMN has tremendous potential to improve, for example, getting benefits to people in dire need of them.
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What's more we are at looking at the whole picture we are only looking at certain sensory input output. We think there are only five senses and that we cannot provide for them all there are far more than 5 senses. Great hearing in two different people is still different.
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I’m passionately in agreement with you. I encounter so much animus for it, evaluated as “less,” rejected for roles, reported for being too rigid in process bcz I want to ensure no one is excluded. For BPMN, for specific uses, value atm outweighs the exclusion—for now.
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I feel that to my core. We are an exclusive not inclusive world no matter what we think we believe or say. Humans exclude not include by default. US versus them People wonder how I don't always feel included. Behavioral medical social ethnic conditions.
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I keep thinking about this. The web is/was meant for all to access. What outputs to the browser must be accessible. That’s why you & I are so dedicated to HTML & CSS. Clean, semantic, and accessible. 1/?
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This is a really good question and it has changed throughout the years in terms of how we think about it but I would be happy to give an overview when I get a chance right now I'm going to grab some dinner and do a little watch party with my brother and his partner back east.
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I enjoy doing this very much so it's perfect timing! thank you for the opportunity. I will get back with you as soon as I can, I will speak generally to the issue as clearly things have changed but it's an opportunity to understand what the World Wide Web actually is composed of.

May 23, 2022 · 12:04 AM UTC

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Replying to @mholzschlag @Appian
The BPMN I’m referring to is not WWW, though. It’s a different tool. For the WWW, I agree we need semantics, awareness, standards, & accessibility. Enjoy your dinner & watch party!
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