I am not pissed with you. But I do disagree. No code is an inclusive way to help more people achieve their goals and build cool things without the requirement to code. But it doesn't mean that it didn't take code to build that possibility. No coders and coders can coexist.

I think that's a different model. This is for applications for Biz Dev and marketing. when we integrate that better maybe we can really examine it. You and I came through years of graphical user interfaces. A balance of experienced language folks and great tooling that I'll take.

What examples of the low code no code development are you thinking? For BPMN, I see it as a great idea. For web development, to date, it produces inaccessible 💩.

Can you drag and drop and interact with a graphical user interface? Many people cannot. That right there is a red flag. Why do I have to use my hands to accomplish a task that should provide multiple input and output options both for preference and accessibility?

It’s like craft = ƒ(1/ease of coding) At the same time, we emphasize ease of coding everywhere, for also pretty good reasons Personally, I believe our craft will only survive if we anchor a stronger idea of professionalism (cf. valid output)—and that it may be okay if doesn’t

I don't think it will be okay and I also agree there should be good tools for professionals. They are also deceptively named and targeted at marketing and Business Development not at Developers. When an application Built This Way fails what has to be fixed? The code.

Might be nice for sketching or prototyping. But a prototype will never survive Production. You never get away with not formulating goals processes and requirements. If you‘ve done them, you can as well have some decent Code and documentation?!

Look at your answer you have to have code and good documentation to fix a failure in an application built of the supposed no code applications. The false naming and Market targets of marketing departments and Business Development also are red flags to me.