LOL that's pretty darn interesting. I do have an important question for you what is the advocacy of no code I know you teach code and to know the code before moving on to other techniques. How did this come about if I may ask Jenn I'm very curious thank you my dear!

Oh I totally agree with that philosophically speaking there is a huge difference between the hobbyist tinker and the web professional at least that's how I see that split it should be easy for people who do not need to rise to a professional standard if I dare use standard hahaha

That is very true. I would hope that those of us who have been paid money throughout the decades for our work are in fact professionally ethical as best as we can be to a given situation. I just really have trouble with no code approaches for deployment outside the sandbox.