My main point is that people are using it now to calculate „accessible“ contrast but as long as WCAG 3 is not a standard (or WCAG2 is not amended), colors meeting APCA thresholds will not always meet WCAG2 contrast requirements. People cannot use it if they need to meet WCAG 2.
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And yes, the conformance model of WCAG 3 is in development, so who knows what the thresholds are. You say Lc 60 and 75 could be used as a simplification but in the end you don’t know if that will be WCAG 3 compliant or not. Because it is not done.
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That was what I said and you confirmed. Sorry if there is criticism of your color contrast model and how it is used in WCAG 3. Consensus and discussion is the root of how standards are developed. You can either listen to these suggestions if people doing WCAG conformance testing
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… every day, or you do not. I personally don’t care if you do. I put my concerns out there specifically for that use case. Because I cannot go in day to day testing and say “it’s in the ballpark”. I need to create those lookup tables and justify them. And all I want is 1 example
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You know, it is incredibly demotivating.We are supposed to figure out how to use these things in practice before they get published and then these big changes swoop in and whenever you ask for specifics it’s “let’s figure this out later”. No, this is the time.
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In the end, implementation matters. If accessibility requirements are easy to implement, they will be. Having more color options help. Hiding them behind a maze of considerations does not. It is not a simple thing to work out. I want this to be better and clearer.
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Maybe we don’t share that goal, maybe we do. But saying “hold your horses, WCAG 3 is not ready, and determining compliance is probably more complicated than the raw Lc value” is not misrepresenting the facts. Feel free to ignore or block me. I have voiced my concerns in the past
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Hey do I have to turn the car around kids? Shouting out on Twitter can work very fucking well
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Yes it can when it's honest.
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So very true I bitched at you but you are right honesty very hard found these days maybe ever. I defend @yatil because we go back many decades and I love him for all he has done for our community and accessibility and I have this loyal aspect to my nature that can startle me too

Oct 25, 2021 · 12:07 AM UTC

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No need to defend me. Apparently asking for clarifications, and stating that WCAG 3 is not ready, are “lies”. They’ll face the same and more scrutiny later in the W3C process. I want a new algorithm sooner than anyone but also avoid past mistakes. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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It was a visceral reaction because I respect you. But I did not have the full facts I do agree none of us want to repeat the same mistakes look at where we are and what we thought we were doing right turns out to be all wrong
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I appreciate that. For perspective, I have spent the last 2½ years researching and developing the solution for a very serious web problem: the lack of readability contrast. It is critically important for accessibility. I've responded to his concerns but still he persists?? 😕
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I haven't looked at your work I've been in the industry a long time myself very unwell these last months. it would be interesting to look that wasn't fair of me I will take a closer look I promise. Thank you for understanding
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