Curious as to how many #webdev #webdesign #UX folks worked on HTML frame-based (<frameset> makes me giggle now) sites back in the day. Or even now! 🤣 The Web Mistakes Confessional is now open ⏳

👋 I used frames for the first websites I built, but then quickly moved to tables. That was back in the early 2000s. I’m not ashamed of it because it was what we had back then. And building websites with tables back then is kinda helpful building HTML newsletters now.

Back in the day ppl didn't use frames as a layout tool but more as a mean to keep nav/header/sidebar static(to only reload the main content while navigating a site) They're also used to avoid duplicating components across pages(i.e header) We had the choice between frames and SSI

You’re absolutely right. That’s how I used frames back then. And tables for the layout. I just mentioned two things I used when I built websites back then. Btw I totally forgot to mention the famous spacer.gif. That’s what I used too almost 20 years ago. 🥳

Did you see my tweet about this passage if alternative text with the asterisk did you use that too LOL I definitely did because it was better hearing than spacer 49 times any given page. Oh what we did it was fun to explore the sandbox but now we've shifted into a danger zone Imo

Yes I saw your tweet and I think I did the alt text thing too. 😄 Sometimes I miss the trial and error times. On the other hand I’m happy about all the fancy things you can do on the internet today. 🪄

I'm not sure I can agree with that as a user with increasing disabilities and issues I have found today's web almost unusable and total fail for all original design principles. I'm not happy at all as a user. I'd love to know what advantages and fancy things we are doing today:-)

I should have clarified that my tweet was just regarding design elements. UX-wise I’m totally with you. Especially disabled people didn’t benefit from the evolution of the web. There’s still a lot to do when I see what problems disabled and/or older people face on the web today.

Thanks for the clarification. There is still a lot to do, and not at all limited to our challenges with accessibility. I am a disabled older person btw.

Oh I didn’t know that. I think a problem is that not all designers/developers are aware of the amount of disabled people on the internet when they design/build things for the web. So it’s every designer’s/developer’s job to make other designers/developers aware of it.