Curious as to how many #webdev #webdesign #UX folks worked on HTML frame-based (<frameset> makes me giggle now) sites back in the day. Or even now! ๐Ÿคฃ The Web Mistakes Confessional is now open โณ

Feb 15, 2021 ยท 8:56 PM UTC

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Replying to @mholzschlag
Second site I built back in 1999 I think ๐Ÿค”
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Do you remember the goal and reason frames were chosen? Or was it "cool" factor or a form of sandbox play?
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Replying to @mholzschlag
Yep, mostly updating old pages in the late 1990s, early 00s.
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That makes sense, and I'm sure was no easy task with the DOM problems of the era. There are working frame based sites in use today. I worry that newer devs haven't usually been exposed to the techniques and issues lest they are challenged to update such sites. :)
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Replying to @mholzschlag
I did. Iโ€™m 100% sure I screwed them up too.
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Hahaha, Billy, you may have, but they were screwy by default so don't blame yourself ;-)
Replying to @mholzschlag
I want to confess tables, within tables within tables. I never had a problem with iframes.
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Leslie, tables within tables is what we had for layout. iframes hold an intriguing piece of Web history. This was our timeline of learning and evolving, after all!
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Replying to @mholzschlag
Yep. And iLayers/iFrames to do remoting pre-XHR.
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THIS! One of the earliest "restful" methdologies emerged with them. WaSP emerged largely due to DOM incompatibilties ca 1998 with <layer> and <div> (NN and IE) causing major issues as we old skool kids new then.
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