No debate from me. I bring evidence. It's not JS itself. It's the fragmentation of declarative, the dissolution and disillusion of what the #DOM's role should be, and obfuscation due to poor practices and lack of education that is based in object languages.

I recall a raging debate a few years ago about using JS frameworks to fill an empty <div> with content wrapped in a template. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should, though.