It's not @SlackHQ leaving people out but browser vendors not implementing required features fast enough. Many years IE was the most hated browser now I think that pleasure falls onto Safari. Stop moaning about developers not supporting your platform make it better then we will.
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Many years ago IE was hated because developers targeted it explicitly. Then open web advocates like @zeldman, @adactio & @mholzschlag & @mozilla helped establish standards to ensure consistent experiences. That鈥檚 what @jonathansampson is talking about.
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Consistent experiences I totally agree that's much better than it was and I only have admiration and appreciate all hard work that is put into it. But you have to admit each vendor has their own interpretation of how those features are implemented and do cause issues.
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Every browser has had instances of borked implementations of standards because ultimately humans write the code. But choosing one browser while neglecting others because it involves work to build a consistent solution blocks out users which I'm not in agreement with.
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I can sympathize with them as I went through the same and it wasn't great. I'm pretty sure that's more of a business decision than developers choice. Most likely electron is their favourite while web is the neglected child.
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I've heard too many times that "we're focusing on Chrome because it's the dominant browser and we'll get to the other ones when we can." or "Edge doesn't work on Mac so we don't test it."
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Otherwise slack needs some better devs because that's just lazy.
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I've know them and they're definitely very talented & not lazy. They have a small team with a specific direction which I wish was broader in scope.
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When you realize @SlackHQ is @stewart鈥檚 product, and Stewart鈥檚 the genius who gave us the 5k contest back in the early 2000s, the Slack dev team鈥檚 decision focus on just one browser is all the more puzzling. Stewart鈥檚 been an open web guy since forever.
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There are a variety of opinions within Slack :) I don鈥檛 believe we should let Slack run in the browser *at all*. It鈥檚 a significantly worse experience, limits functionality in critical ways, and increases complexity of development which makes everything slower.
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Semantically OCD I am, but, apps are apps. Sites are sites. User agents matter! Implementation, security, performance, bug mounds often lost in the rush-to-market, we-won-the-web, users suck, free of all human conditions. Freedom? Fosters innovation. Amplified Predation? Entropy.

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