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A fairly good list of what's required today but no mention of any of the actual design principles which for the record we have never met in any version of any language of any practice since the day the w3c began writing specs.
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Replying to @barneycarroll
I have to laugh because first of all I don't think that's accurate we can talk about that more at some time but have you ever had to work collaboratively in an International Group made up mostly of competitors? For a long time dominated by one and one browser alone?
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Replying to @shawncrigger
Oh boy do I sympathize with you I'm so glad I never had to do it but I knew plenty of people who had to do it and still have to do it today
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Replying to @AngieRadtke
Your soup metaphor is close. @stevenpemberton the HTML WGchair in 2009 end of our Charter used the term 'monolithic lump' now lumpier and obfuscated both content, real semantics and the declarative model for actual semantic markup by domain in favor of apps AKA software not web.
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Replying to @kevinmarks
Did not know that thank you Kevin. I created a mastodon account and have never used it as between Facebook and Twitter and ticking Time Bomb projects on my desk it's just been very difficult. The use of the rel attribute already implemented was logical and relationally semantic.
From 2009 an interview in Monterrey, Mexico audio podcast with Scott Hanselman in which we talk @WHATWG HTML5 even as having an XML serialization. Any errors are mine. This is when the original HTML working group @w3c chárter ended. #History #HTML #XML hanselman.com/blog/hanselmin…
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A huge problem was when HTML began to be supported in email such as provided by oh you know Microsoft it created nightmares and still does for people have to write HTML emails. Which still is done.
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Replying to @barneycarroll
Again Banning would be a term I would not use nobody can stop you from doing it if you want Jeffrey zeldman came up with something called transitional design which included the use of tables as a container combined with emerging improvements in CSS at one time.
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Replying to @barneycarroll
There were other specific problems until we began to see more work on accessibility additions to them. But folks including me who often made the claim tables weren't proposed for layout is untrue. But no one pixel GIFs, need for linearization, minimal nesting, evolving elements
Microformats were referred to as the lowercase semantic web which sought to use a quicker way than XML serialization for similar grouping of ideas. Anybody remember XFN, the extensible Friends Network. Implemented in WordPress fast revolve as extended to existing HTML attributes.
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The Semantic Web as envisioned is alive and used in many cases when you are unaware of it meant to be domain specific lexical vocabularies we have them today. The semantics are human to machine readable ideally not about the presentation or function in a browser.
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When most people talk about HTML as being semantic the assumed meaning is unclear but usually meant to convey it relates directly to the content so a block quote is a block of quote. The other is avoidance of presentational description. It's inaccurate but it's a convention
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I think the meaning here is when you're using the word semantic web you mean descriptive and not presentational. There is also the uppercase semantic web uppercase as proposed is something very different lowercase also. I'll do post please correct me if incorrect or vague.
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Replying to @samiamtimet @glazou
The irony of rabbit ears in a playful situation or the irony of Twitter or both?
Replying to @rwillowfish
I don't think most people go into Healthcare with any other intention than to help others or and or find good jobs. However they are manipulated burnt out and not educated toward real science but rather pharmaceutical agendas top it's not like I'm the first one to notice lol
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It's a great question yet here's the truth there was a proposal for layout used for tables. It wasn't included in the spec. There was a period of time where they could be used if linearized to make beautiful logical and more accessible than now. Was hacking floats better?
Replying to @mholzschlag
That’s the question to answer. If the yesterday’s tools for building websites were shown off today: Would newer developers say, “that’s much easier” or “wow, you had it much harder”
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Replying to @fscgo
There's a period of time toward H2O 4.2 and XML 1.0 where we had accessibility for more accessible forms and linearized tables with accessibility features. Apis are obfuscated on purpose that's what they do and what they're for. HTML semantics are declarative and open.
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Replying to @carmelyne
The read write web it's what it was meant to be it was how it was developed how it was envisioned and one of its best examples is Wiki and Wikipedia with the exception that it is often inaccurate and fraught with human bias but what isn't? And that's done by volunteers!
Replying to @siblingpastry
Oh my dear brother of many years I would have to take you to task on that. The term at the time was too ambiguous wml was stacked implying layers, we had separate layers of Concepts in the open web stock, Photoshop layers Etc we want to be more specific in semantics lexically
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Replying to @shawncrigger
Oh sometimes I really miss them and think I'd like to have them back. For reals!
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