It is the true teacher who leaves the class knowing they have learned the most.
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They were already dead at that point anyway ;-) My Mom used to hate getting flowers for that reason, although she did make gorgeous arrangements from her own rose garden, which I loved.
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Leaving the Web Standards Project. Which is 404'ing and wasn't doing that not so long ago. /me sighs a 10,000 year sigh. HT: @barneycarroll
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Um, well, that is antithetical to Tim's don't break URLs but maybe @schampeo co-lead and our tech wizard has reasons, Steve? :)
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Not only that, people like me who spent most of their time in w3c working groups as invited experts had to pay for everything out of pocket and travel the world in order to do so it was a difficult thing to pull off but mentorship, and lifelong friendships? Priceless!
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Pay for what? We were volunteers. The membership model of the w3c however was a problem and it is very obvious now. Despite a lot of good ideas the connection to universities limited Financial endeavors like courseware, conferences, more value incentives for membership retention.
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Hindsight is 20/20 and I could have also worked to find and choose aggressive replacements for leadership. I have tremendous love and respect for both Kimberly and Aaron and all who participated. But, when I read the last post from wasp "our work here is done" my heart broke.
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The reason I left is I felt there was a conflict of interest as Microsoft gave me a contract to promote new standards implementations and issues after they working on IE again. But as a contractor and blogger with a big mouth and known for that I could have done it ethically.
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That was specific to the IE issues in the Microsoft task force. But we had evolved a very fine group of people working directly with corporations such as Adobe and other big players we were really working hard at that point. I left and I feel I should have been more responsible.
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I understand that and it was a common critique of the project that people used to advance their names. But I don't see that as much as hard-working people who volunteered. My stance was not always very popular and the entire painful and ugly and a hard hard time for me and others
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That is not what we did in my era no way we went to the corporation's my friend not to the developers we did not lay this on the developers in my leadership time it was removed from the developers and it was not a sting operation rather a collaboration and an expansion of tasks.
I don't think so I will have to argue that because we took it to the corporations and I myself faced off with Bill Gates twice on this shit so that was not about developers that was for developers I take that personally that you can't resent me for because I did the right thing.
I'm a long time open source Advocate but the recent Shenanigans have concerned me as well. As has this whole no-code movement which I do not think is a sustainable model and is also promoting an idea that there is no code when it's all code underneath. It's degrees of limitation.
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You can feel free to resent me for that if you want I'll give you full permission to do so for leaving the project as lead. I bear that burden anyway. No way is it pleasant or a happy ending to a time of optimism and growth instead of the dark despair and agony now.
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Well, the web standards crowd cough cough cough partly on me. I left the web standards project then disbanded. Maybe if they had stayed together, continued with the missions set forth in our task forces, they could have been a force majeure in preventing some of this crap today.
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You're making me giggle Barney! Here's Steven's ideas about declarative and bringing it back I really enjoy this presentation a great deal.
youtube.com/jl4fnY4BjEY
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This is his Xforms tutorial. I'm going to send another link of is very witty presentation the 100-year web in just a moment. I think you'll enjoy it I know I watch it and laugh every single time.
What's more Steven who is the former chair of the original HTML working group before it lost its Charter is working to bring declarative to current developers and make them aware that this is an option still.
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We lost the original working group Charter in 2009. there were issues related to xhtml2 and backward compatibility which of course HTML5 adoption has failed too. But XML lives on. Xforms is a good example. @stevenpemberton has a talk about it on YouTube. I'll get the link.
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