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The point is it took many ideas to initiate change. And it happened. IE6 was really a business related choice by a few that ultimately lost them market share but led to the death of their own rendering engine, which actually had always been ahead of the game in CSS and DOM.
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So Dean Edwards had already provided a working proof that it was relatively easy to implement things using JS and still keeping to the separation reguired to achieve an interoperable browser. Finally, the window opened up and IE7 and up to Edge came out of that crazy time and...
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At the same time, there were internal people there who not only knew standards, but were making them. Notably, the ever awesome @cwilso who should be sainted along with others on the inside who actually bled out during that time inside. I got to go home not bleeding at all.
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If folks don't remember the issues with IE6, the problem was down to some folks at Microsoft including Bill Gates who said right to my face "We have standards! Look at our XML!" I had to laugh because of course XHTML was emerging too. IE6 had no implementation to serve it as XML!
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He came at this very early in the game. It absolutely stunned me at the time, as JS was not at all a "First" in the open Web stack. We first met up for coffee in London. He tended to be socially to himself except when with progressive thinkers working to fix the IE6 shut down.
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A personal anecdote involving Dean Edwards - some remember his work very well. He was an early adopter of Javascript and fixed IE6 using a self-made JS library specific to IE6. Here's what he did:
dean.edwards.name/IE7/usage/
Talk about thinking outside a box (model) I HAD TO sorry!
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So what's up with all that? One or two over the many is not a hallelujah chorus but a mourner's wail. Multitudes gives us choice. We have multitudes but most choose one or two over the many. What do you think? I don't have a conclusion other than: Stop that crap or we all dead.
I am absolutely convinced that we have enough evidence that we will not evolve if we persist in resisting change and falling into onanism or duality only. It's eating one potato every day when you have an abundance of other nutritious foods. And that ends how? Illness and death.
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When the Web first emerged, the ideals and goals were noble, elegant and hopeful. All that still exists. Recs and specs exist, as do many places where instead of stinging, a window opens.
WaSP > Sting. A Window Opened > Shift > Change.
Lived it, know it. We still have it.
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Onanism and duality really screw with systems, and this is what concerns me about the insistance that it's singular or binary ONLY. That is radically exclusive. Evidence is in the math and how that manifests in the social world.
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To adopt this in humanity has never helped. Take it down to the SINGULAR ideal followed and/or imposed and we can end up with outright genocide. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - scale it up to nations China, Russia, Cambodia, Armenia, Russia, Syria ad infiniitum, ad nauseum.
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Duality has consitently resulted in social and physical warfare. My way. Not Your way. Often backed up by one thing "My god told me so." How does that help us shift/change humankind into a learning, advancing, more acceptance and at best enjoyment and enrichment from many ideas?
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Duality is a horrible model for designing scalable infrasture for humanity. It is a split of extremes. The term "Black and White Thinking" appears in "mental health" fields as a red light for disorder. We have thousands of years and 8 billion people proving otherwise. Evidence.
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Humans are in a state of social decline and a lot of rage and real hate out there. I think a lot of issues lie in the belief in many people right now that there are only two ways of thinking about policy where each side is claiming correct. Bipartisan, binary, Cartesian Duality.
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Been reminiscing about the people and circumstances of the Web that fascinated me because I am fundamentally not at all fascinated with the Web as it is now: Commodity, Utility and NO FUCKING STANDARDS! How does that happen in a browser monoculturer? I have a theory!
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Here's the link for Christopher's (@Teleject) #CSS USA flag July, 2008.
Thanks @toddlibby and @redcrew for jumping right on it.
christopher.org/american-fla…
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Thank you Håkon! This was what he did with NeXT yes? We lost @Teleject who did so much with #CSS in the early years especially for designers. I had a thought that what you gave the Web is an enormity of delight, challenge and a community of deep and abiding friendship. Thank You.
Indeed, there were style sheets in @timberners_lee 's code. But written in Objective-C.
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I deeply empathize. And while this body stays in place, my own heart wants so much to offer comfort for having been so comforted by you. I am here, I am able to be silent or listen or cry or laugh. Whatever support I can offer, it is for her memory and your living. Peace.