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Heavens to Murgatroyd! Does Opera support SVG? Longest and most complete support than in any other browser :) /@japchap
web devs are more part of software engineering than ever, particularly as HTML5 and related APIs blows wide open, and browsers strengthen.
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As for learning curves, front end web dev in general is becoming far more complicated as we move from "document" to "application" mentality.
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The learning curve for SVG is high, no doubt. But <canvas> demands some serious JS chops. So either way we go . . . @johnallsopp @stefsull
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@imkindabad specifically, that was SVG in an HTML5 document, served as text/html.
@japchap it's on the way IN. IE9 is implementing SVG 1.1 (how much we'll see as it unfolds). This will mean far more opportunity to use SVG.
Not for me. <canvas> will be very useful, but again - just another tool in our wizard's bag. / @stefsull
IE9 will be a game-changing browser for numerous reasons, but a big one is that aspects of SVG will now be possible to use far more readily.
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One of the reasons gradients is a lower priority in the CSS charter and spec is because of SVG - a far more powerful (and stable) spec.
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That last tweet from me showed SVG in HTML5 - right in the document to achieve an inline vector drawing without <canvas>
SVG can be written directly into HTML5 and served as text/html for those browsers with SVG support, which will include IE9 /@stefsull
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There's the Template module, grid layout, flexbox, multicol - but for real layout, template and grid are still nascent /@dustinwilson
@rarepleasures late to the party doesn't mean unprepared for the party ;)
@rarepleasures With me, you're preaching to the soprano in the choir. Shall we do a duet?
@rarepleasures I rarely recommend them. They won't scale to future techniques - that's another problem. But for certain situations, useful.
@stefsull haha, I know that. Actually, we've wrapped for this quarter. It's not like the group isn't working. It's a very difficult problem.
@sarahebourne Of course we know that now, and we know the risks of using them for layout. But they remain the only true grid construct.