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Note also with Frame running, WebKit's advanced CSS features will be available to IE as well.
@sgalineau You know me, I can't help it. :P
With Frame running, note that IE will be as HTML5 ready as Chrome itself.
Replying to @carywood
@carywood haha! I did it just yesterday for the first time. Wassup with that?
A plug-in will also require updates for new feature sets. That seems to me to be a clusterf*ck unless actual integration into IE will occur.
Replying to @finnatic
@finnatic Definitely a persistent problem due to IE's OS integration. The Web is meant to be platform and user agent INDEPENDENT.
Replying to @keranm
@oo00_Mr_K_00oo Me no run IE unless I'm testing. Opera, remember?
Wondering why I'm having a hard time buying into the idea that Frame is a "plugin"
I do think educated web devs will be quick to adopt Frame to simply to get the better standards experience. Keyword: Educated.
Replying to @joedevon
@joedevon You'll need to have the "plug-in" AND add an XUA meta (and I think server will likely work too).
I think chrome/IE "frame" is one step for MS to move from Trident, which has caused them, and us, pain and suffering for years. Just sayin.
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Replying to @Twirrim
@Twirrim Okay, it's KIND of a plug-in. We're talking Microsoft and Google. You have to think what it means in terms of future IE development
What the Chrome/IE step could mean is a transition out of Trident & OS dependency - could lead to a very fine browser in terms of standards.
Replying to @zahnster
@zahnster hey there! No I don't think it will lower barriers of change unless people get really educated, especially if there's XUA stuff.
Replying to @Twirrim
@Twirrim No way it's a plug-in if you have to purposely switch to the engine.
WebKit CSS too. You will have to use XUA compat meta (I imagine server will work) to switch to this engine. At least it's not versioning.
BIG NEWS: IE to get Chrome's HTML rendering and JavaScript engine. http://is.gd/3zTbM Google insisted, apparently. What an industry, sheesh!
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Replying to @rem
@rem That's a good idea, I'm working on a talk similar to that, actually building a demo app in HTML5. HTML5doctor.com has been SO helpful!
Really understanding HTML5 in the context web apps is not a natural domain for Web designers who are now designing /software/ & not /pages/.
Not only that, but I am challenged to teach document specialists and designers what APIs are, why scripting is so critical.