Thank you. If “experience and pragmatism” is placed in the service of a soulless economic perspective, as it is now, then what does it do for us? Some of the most tyrannous leaders in the world are “experienced and pragmatic.” The experience we most need now is recognizing the deeper dynamics of a situation - particularly those of an unjust system - and the ability to articulate and transform them. FDR said “the biggest job of the presidency is not administrative, but rather moral leadership.”