What side wants to save civilization?? How many have to be members to be considered a “side”?

The economic system, unjust or otherwise, still need the human civilization for it to operate! I am sure (not wishful) that saving the planet (and all living beings in it) would always take precedence over everything else. If its not this way, then its doomsday soon!

Let’s cut through the shit, both sides talk a lot about wanting to help different areas yet are more worried about helping themselves. The bills that try to get rammed through are wrought with garbage with sprinklings for American people

the problem is people believe the reds and blues as the two sides we are supposed to choose between. They are both false gods.

Let's see who's got the better PR team...

we are doomed....

Looks like the civilization people have lost already.

That's WHITE HUMAN civilization. Let us be clear about that.

Much of the left gets their information from a newspaper owned by the richest man in the world It's a forgone conclusion

Try "inherently baseless". There is nothing that validates the premises of neoliberal economics. It was originally devised for one reason: stopping the spread of socialism. That it rams the bulk of wealth to the top was just a side benefit for US economic imperialism.