This is honestly a dumb take when Nina lost by 5 despite extreme easily exploited negative baggage. How about running a progressive who didn't spend the last five years viciously attacking the party she's running to be the nominee of?
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Democrats now have to line up in some kind of creepy loyalty to Biden the way Republicans line up in creepy loyalty to Trump? Democracy means we don’t always agree! A disagreement is not an attack. She did not “spend 5 years viciously attacking the party.”
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Do you have to? No. But do you get to do that and win an election among Democratic primary voters? Not likely. That's a thing you don't get to have both ways.
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I mean, if going for Jill Stein and calling voting for Biden over Trump a bowl of shit is your jam, you do you. Just, don't expect to win a Democratic primary that way, you know?
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If you can't find the middle ground between "line up in fealty" and "bowl of shit" then politics may not be for you!
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She’d just completed work on the Bernie campaign. It’s well-established now that the Bernie campaign was suppressed. She had an angry moment -the type of thing that happens to everyone. People are holding her to moment that unfairly. She’s worked for yrs for the Democratic Party
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A) it's not "well-established" that the Bernie campaign was suppressed. He polled at 30 percent and got 30 percent. B) the "bowl of shit" comment is just icing on the Jill Stein cake. C) Warren advocates remember how she treated us.
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And the reason Turner lost is the same as the reason Bernie lost. You can't campaign aggressively against the party and expect the party's voters to reward you with the nomination.
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The state of the country be damned? Issues are irrelevant? Exactly what George Washington said: political parties form “factions who put their party over their country.”
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Voters are partisan and are often party loyalists. If you don't like that, oh well. I didn't make it that way. But it's not their obligation to not be affected by attacks on what they perceive as their team. You don't get to be rewarded by Democratic voters for attacking it.
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I get that. I just think she’s done a lot to support the Democratic Party over the years and it’s unfair how she was made to appear like its enemy. Thanks for the respectful conversation.

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You're welcome. I want to stress though: it wasn't a "made to appear" proposition. She actively did it, both with Jill Stein in 2016 and the People's Party thing after that. It wasn't an undeserved rep. It was very well earned. Thanks for engaging!
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