To all the materialists who think the incredible designs of nature - including on fish, birds, flowers and even caterpillars - emerge from nothing more than the most reductionist scientific evolutionary forces, I joyously disagree with you.

Apr 5, 2021 · 4:04 AM UTC

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I shouldn’t have used the word “reductionist” that way. The people criticizing me on that one are right. My bad. Sorry.
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Replying to @marwilliamson
lol...if you mean by reductionist that it plays a part in its survival and/or reproduction as developed over generations through adaptive mutations yes I disagree with your assessment there's a divine creators hand at work how'd you explain the 'ugly' even 'disgusting' creatures
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Replying to @marwilliamson
All due respect, I don't think you ever grasped the actual meaning of "evolution". This is the root cause
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Oh god
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Replying to @marwilliamson
What about evolution is reductionist?
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Replying to @marwilliamson
But you have no evidence that gives you a reason to disagree with it. Why hold a position based on nothing more than an emotional feeling?
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Replying to @marwilliamson
I joyously disagree with you too. I think we can understand beauty in naturalism without having to resort to supernaturalism.
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Replying to @marwilliamson
These can all be appreciated just as highly by materialists! The mechanism (not design) of natural selection is awe inspiring precisely because of its humble origins as a single atom of matter! The Jesuit philosopher-paleontologist Pierre Teilhard de Chardin would probably agree
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Replying to @marwilliamson
It took billions of years. Humans weren't even around until 100,000 years ago. Imagine how humans could evolve in a billion years.
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I am glad you can take joy in your unfettered ignorance. Truly, you're blessed.
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Replying to @marwilliamson
maybe part of what’s so incredible about nature is that evolutionary forces CAN produce such immense beauty. chirp chirp :)
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