Nobody is victim blaming. What is being said is that had these cyclists been more cautious and obeyed their own traffic control devices that he wouldn't have been hit. I am more than willing to give these cyclists a safety course.
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In your still frame, you've circled the crosswalk as it's counting down, it's well over 9 seconds at that point. I'm sure you're aware that crosswalk signals start counting down while it's still safe for pedestrians to be crossing.
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O.R.S. 814.010 (6) (b) A pedestrian shall not start to cross the roadway in the direction of a signal showing a “Wait” or “Don’t Walk” or any other symbol approved under ORS 810.200 and 810.210 indicating that the pedestrian may not proceed.
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A pedestrian who has started crossing a roadway on a signal showing “Walk” or any other approved symbol to proceed shall proceed with dispatch to a sidewalk or safety island while a signal is showing “Wait” or “Don’t Walk”
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I don't think I want to live in your world where it's perfectly acceptable to plow down pedestrians for entering the crosswalk the split second it starts counting down.
That driver blew the red light, there's no situation in which a pedestrian or biker is at fault for that.
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Acting as though the cyclists did anything unreasonable here is just not a good faith argument. I'm not sure what you wanted them to do differently.
Keep in mind that if he *had* started crossing any earlier, the van would have hit more than his front wheel.
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I will admit I jumped to conclusions when you cited ORS 814 if you admit that it is victim blaming and wrong to say that the cyclists contributed to this incident at all
Nov 21, 2022 · 8:18 PM UTC
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